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Bosch GCM12SD 12-in Dual-Bevel Glide Miter Saw Review

Bosch GCM12SD 12 " Dual Bevel Glide Miter SawI can’t say which was the primary reason Bosch developed the glide mechanism for this saw, whether it was to make the action smoother or save all the space that’s usually taken up by rails hanging out the back of a sliding saw. But when the Bosch GCM12SD 12 inch Dual Bevel Glide Miter Saw came out, both were accomplished.

Every single buyer who has reviewed this innovative saw has commented that both the up-down and in-out action of it is smooth and effortless. Some even said TOO smooth and effortless – Bosch fixed that problem by adding a tension adjustment so you can tune it to your liking.

The patented Axial-Glide pivoting arm system also saves you up to 12” of space behind the saw, making it ideal for using it in a shop setting – you can actually set it up on a 20” deep bench just a couple inches from a wall.

Other Features:

  • Up-front bevel lock and controls so you don’t have to reach around the back of the saw
  • Integrated base extensions that pull out to increase support to up to 40” and can be locked in at any position
  • Tall quick-release fences that can be slid out to the same reach as the base extensions for superior support and more accurate cuts
  • A handy little length stop that can be attached to either extension for repetitive cuts
  • Thumb actuated push button miter detent override right there in front of the handle/locking knob
  • Easy-to-read etched stainless steel miter scale and equally clear bevel scale and indexing on the fences
  • The dust collection chute will mate up to a vacuum hose in 1-1/4” or 35mm size to keep your work and your work area clean

The Bosch GCM12SD 12 inch Dual Bevel Glide Miter Saw In Action

If a picture is worth a thousand words, what’s a video worth? A million, maybe? Check out this dynamite saw in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I10K3N-UCnY

What Buyers Have To Say

On the CPO Bosch site (where I recommend buying)  there were 5 buyer reviews, 2 gave it five stars, 2 gave it four and one had some problem with it and gave it two.

One cabinet maker had this to say:
“The saw is perfectly balanced and is very smooth to use. It makes very clean, exact cuts. The unique glide arm is worth every extra penny it cost — both in balance/ease of use, and the workbench space savings. Highly recommend this saw, it’s certainly well worth the investment.”

On Amazon, there were 30 reviews, 16 of them five stars and 7 gave it four.

Drawbacks

There are two shortcomings I see and wouldn’t you know it, they’re the two most often mentioned by the buyers who didn’t give the GCM12SD five stars.

First off there’s a problem with the drive housing getting in the way on the right side. If you try to bevel 45 degrees to the right, you’re limited to 1/12” of thickness and mitering to the right, it’s something like 4-1/2”. What really bugged a few people is the Bosch literature claims you can cut molding up to 6-1/2” up against the fence but didn’t mention is has to be a square cut or mitered left.

The second glaring shortcoming is the lack of a laser guide. For a saw this advanced and in this price range, that’s just odd to me. Bosch does make an  arbor mounted, battery operated laser (optional, extra-cost) but it’s not very bright, only works on one side of the blade, and the batteries don’t last. Oh, and unlike saws like Makita’s, it only comes on when the blade is spinning so it doesn’t help you set up your cut before triggering.

Less of a problem is the issue of weight. Bosch says this saw weighs in at 65 lbs but a couple of buyers have mentioned figures like 80 and 88 lbs. If the buyers are right, it’s not very portable but still an excellent shop saw.

Conclusions

This a super-innovative machine, smooth operating and accurate. If you don’t need a laser and don’t have to cut tall stock mitered or beveled to the right, this is a definite yes. Expensive, but most owners love it.

Rating:

Rating: ★★★★½

Where To Buy

I’m definitely going to recommend buying this saw from CPO Tools. It seems a lot of people who bought from the big company that starts with “A” had major issues with the saw being damaged in shipment. And one of them said if you’re going to order this saw get it from someone who uses FedEx, not UPS. CPO uses FedEx.

At CPO Bosch, the price is right, shipping is cheap and if you’re so inclined, you can buy a factory reconditioned saw at a $120 saving. Since it won’t come with the mediocre blade the new one does, you could use the savings to buy the blade you know you want to buy for it anyway. Or put the savings toward a Bosch miter saw stand, either the folding leg model for $249.99 or the vastly superior Bosch T4B Gravity-Rise Wheeled Stand. That one would actually make this big saw very portable.


Buy the Bosch GCM12SD 12-in Dual-Bevel Glide Miter Saw

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Bosch T4B Gravity-Rise™ Wheeled Miter Saw Stand

If you use a miter saw on job sites you need it to be portable, and you need Bosch T4B Gravity-Rise™ Wheeled Miter Saw Standsomething to set it on to use it, right? Well, that usually means a stand and to make it truly mobile, it should be one with wheels so you can use it to move the saw around. But it also needs to be sturdy enough to support your saw and your work AND act like a hand truck when you need to move the saw and load it on your truck.

The Bosch T4B Gravity-Rise™ Wheeled Miter Stand is one of a few that will fill all those needs and do it with ease. It’s definitely sturdy at 76 lbs and it has 8” pneumatic tires to navigate a job site without tipping over.

This stand goes from “hand truck” to work bench as easily as any I’ve ever seen. It actually uses its weight and that of the saw to raise its top up to working height so you’re not fighting with 150 pounds or so of metal, it’s helping you. Pretty nifty.

It also has extending support rails that stretch out to about 18 feet total width for good material support.

The T4B is designed to work with not only Bosch miter saws, but most competitors’ saws, too. It comes with mounts you attach to the base of the saw then clamp those to the stand.

And just so you know the Bosch engineers did some thinking, those mounts have rubber feet on them so when you take the saw off the stand and put it on a bench, table or floor, they won’t damage anything. Or slide around.

The Bosch T4B Gravity-Rise™ wheeled miter saw stand would be a great match-up with the their advanced GCM12SD 12 inch Dual Bevel Glide Miter Saw. It would make moving the big saw around a lot simpler.

What Buyers Say

Unbelievable – that’s how I’d describe the ranking for this stand. On the CPO Bosch site, it got eight 5-star ratings out of 11 reviews. On Amazon it was 51 out of 60. Pretty convincing.

Rating

I’m sticking with the crowd on this one.

Rating: ★★★★★

Where To Buy

On this one, I’m recommending Amazon. Their price on it is $50.00 less than my usual favorite, CPO Tools. And as of this writing, it qualifies for Amazon’s free Super-Saver shipping. Considering that in the box, this thing tips the scale at over 90 lbs, free shipping is huge!

Bosch T4B Gravity-Rise Wheeled Miter Saw Stand

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Bosch 5412 12″ Dual-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw

Bosch 5412 12" Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw

In the world of professional miter saws, everything counts: features, capacities, accuracy, mobility and dependability. And not necessarily in that order.

The Bosch 5412 12″ dual bevel slide miter saw, with its up-front controls meets most of those requirements head-on. And slightly better in a couple of them than their model 5312, which otherwise is the same saw. Definitely worth the slight difference in price.

The biggest difference between the two models is the 5412 has a rotating main handle, giving you the possibility of four different positions for comfort and control. With either hand. And it comes with a nice little length stop, which can be mounted on either side, for repetitive cuts of the same short length. Plus a quick, lever-action workpiece clamp. All the other features we’ll discuss here are common to both models.

Features

The first feature that puts this saw in a special class is the up-front bevel controls. If you’ve ever used a bevel slider without this advantage, you know how nice it would be to have it. No more reaching around the back of the saw to un-lock and lock the bevel.

Next, is the wedge and slot miter detent system, for sure miter settings. And as the saw wears – which it will over the years of its long life – this design assures that the detents will still be as accurate as the day it was new. The wedge-shaped bar that goes into the slot automatically centers itself due to its shape.

Another thing you’ll notice at first glance is the two extensions. While a lot of good miter saws have them, these are a little different, in that the tops of them are cast, not wire. When pushed in, they become part of the base. Extend them all the way, and you have a total of 40 inches of support. If you don’t want them extended all the way – like when you want to use the length stop mentioned above – they have clamping levers to lock them in wherever you want them.

The miter scale on the Bosch 5312 and 5412 is cast into the base, not just painted on. It won’t wear off. Of course the same can be said of the scales on the fences and the bevel scale – all are easy to read and durable.

The sliding fences on this saw are nice, too. They’re 4-1/2 inches tall and the upper portions slide out as far as the table extensions, to give you more support and more accurate cuts on things like crown moldings.

Capacity

Speaking of crown moldings, the manufacturer says you can cut them up to 6 inches angled against the fence and 10-1/4 inches lying flat. And board stock up to 12-1/2 inches wide and 4-1/4 thick can be cut at zero bevel/zero miter, giving this saw good capacity.

Mobility

At 59 pounds, the Bosch 5312 and 5412 are fully 13 pounds lighter than a comparable Jet saw and about the same as a 12 inch Makita or a DeWalt 718. Not light but not heavy, either.

Drawbacks

The main drawback to these saws I can see has to do with the housing for the drive belt. When you want to cut on a 45 degree bevel to the right, it gets in the way of any stock taller than 1-3/4 inches. Unless you’re also mitering to the left, that is. Beveling left, it gives you another inch of clearance. This is probably a problem with most dual bevel miter saws, whether belt or gear driven.

Another shortcoming is they don’t come with a laser guide, a little surprising considering all the thought that went into them. I would have thought when Bosch upgraded from the 5312 to the 5412 they would have included this feature that’s become so common on professional miter saws.

What Buyers Say

On the CPO Bosch site (my recommended dealer) there are only four reviews. But all four gave it five stars. On Amazon, you can’t really tell because they mixed up reviews for 3 or 4 different models. However, of the total of 50 reviews, 32 gave it five stars.

Conclusions

The Bosch 5412 is a well-designed and well-built miter saw, not unusual for this famous German company. And at about $100 less than saws like the Jet 12SCMS and $50 less than the Makita LS1216L, the 5412 is a bargain. Unless you need the laser, that is.

I’d give this saw five stars if it had a laser and didn’t have that clearance problem on the right side.

Rating:Rating: ★★★★☆

To read the full specs and feature list (most of which are pretty standard for a sliding dual-bevel saw in this class) and to buy this impressive tool, click the link here:


Bosch 5412 12-in Dual-Bevel Slide Miter Saw with Upfront Controls

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Makita LS1016LX 10-inch Dual-Slide Miter Saw With Stand Review

Makita LS1016LX With Portable Jobsite StandThe Makita LS1016LX Dual Slide Compound Miter with the Jobsite Miter Saw Stand  195083-4 is a great combination for a finish carpenter. Not only does the stand put your saw where you want it, it folds down nearly flat with the saw attached to give you easier mobility(see image below).

As you can see in this first photo, the stand has large 12″ solid rubber wheels and a big rubberized handle to roll it around the site and get the saw where you need it. And it has built-in extensions with a roller on the left extension to help you handle longer stock with ease.

Having read user reviews of this stand and a couple others made to go with high-end contractor miter saws, the Makita stands out. One of the others earned complaints because the wheels are so small, it tips over when it’s being pulled around a job site. The other comes with pneumatic tires that are prone to puncturing with all the loose nails in a construction area.

And one was deemed too light-weight and flimsy for the heavy saw being put on it. The Makita 195083-4 doesn’t have either of these problems.

To read the full review of the 195083-4 click here. If you also want to read the full review of the LS1016L 10 dual sliding compound miter saw click here. The stand is also paired up with the 12″ Makita LS1216L and that’s called the LS1216LX.

Click on an image below to see a larger version.

Makita LS1016LX 10" Miter Saw With Portable StandLS1016LX in use

The Makita LS1016LX combination dual sliding compound miter saw and portable jobsite stand can be purchased as one unit, saving approximately $50 versus buying them separately.

The best source I found for this combo setup is Tool King. They’ve been around for a long time and are ranked in the top 50 of all Internet retail sites by Internet Retailer, and industry publication. They’re also a member of Better Business Bureau Online Reliability Program and their site is McAfee secured. Trust them.

Makita LS1016LX 10-inch Dual-Slide Miter Saw with Laser and Stand

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JET JMS-10SCMS 10″ Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw Review

Jet JMS-12SCMS 10" Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter SawFor a 10″ sliding miter saw, the JET JMS-10SCMS Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter (also called the 707110 B3NCH) is pretty impressive. It has most of the features you’ll find on their 12″ model but at about $200 less, it might be worth considering if you don’t absolutely need a 12″ saw.
You don’t give up much in capacity with this saw: It will cut base and cove moldings up to 4-3/4″ high on a vertical and cross cut boards up to 12″ wide and 3-5/8″ thick. At a 45° miter, it still handles boards up to 8″ wide. And at a 45° bevel, up to 1-5/8″ thick (1-3/8″ at 45° right bevel).

A few of the unique JET features I like are:

  • The patented Green XACTA Laser™ that shows up much better than red in daylight conditions
  • The time-saving up-front controls, including the bevel lock, so you don’t have to be reaching around the back of the saw to adjust the bevel
  • The enclosed slide rail system that stays clean and smoothly operating
  • The totally unique motor location, above and to the rear of the operating arm and blade to give you a clear view of your work
  • The encased v-belt connecting the motor to the fence that not only makes that motor positioning possible, but also cuts down on vibration and noise
  • The sliding top portions of the fences that give you better support when cutting bevels
  • The fences have increment marks on them (like a ruler) to make repetitive cuts simpler
  • The two carry handles that are positioned to provide balance when you’re moving it
  • The pull out arm that slides out of the back to help stabilize the saw on a work bench or floor
JET JMS-10SCMS_controls

Here you can see the up-front controls

There are some features too, that aren’t necessarily unique to JET, but not what you’d expect on a 10″ saw in this price range. Like the adjustable depth stop that lets you do trenching or grooving. Or the balance spring in the operating arm knuckle that makes moving the blade up and down easier and smoother.

You’ll also find a tool-free work clamp that can be mounted to either side of the blade and swung right and left for more reach and flexibility. In fact, all of the controls, adjustments, locking knobs, etc. are tool-free.

The JMS-10SCMS also has a push button arbor lock to make changing blades easier and a simple push-pin to lock the operating arm down for transporting. I like the way they made all the handles, knobs and controls a bright orange – it’s amazing how much quicker the eye locates them so you don’t have to be looking around for them.

JET JMS-10SCMS_clamp

The versatile clamp

Speaking of handles, the operating handle on this saw is handy, too. It’s big and horizontal so you can use either hand comfortably and the laser switch is located right up on the top, ahead of where your hand goes.

Negatives

Like most miter saws, this one doesn’t have ideal dust collection. But it can be connected to a shop vac or a more expensive dust collection system like the Festool.

And, also typical of most miter saws, the 40 tooth OEM blade isn’t great. It’s okay for cutting 2×4′s and such but if you’re going to be doing trim work you’ll want to replace it. It does have a standard 5/8″ arbor so that’s easy. Funny thing is, the manufacturer’s brochure says it comes with a 60 tooth blade but close-up photos clearly show a 40. (You might want to click that link to the brochure, too. It’s pretty informative.)

Conclusion

This is just personal preference here, but I like the look of this saw – the pleasant, easy-on-the-eyes beige color and bright knobs. If I were to get back into serious woodworking I’d put it at or near the top of my wish list. Not to mention the long list of features that makes it stand out against other 10″ sliding compound miter saws. It has almost all the gizmos and doo-dads of its 12″ brother, the JMS-12SCMS without the price or the extra 20 pounds. And unless you’re working with 6″ moldings or other large material, do you really need a 12″ saw?

When reviewing a miter saw, I like to read what buyers have to say. But, like with JET’s 12″ JMS-12SCMS, I had trouble finding them for this saw. It seems it’s languishing in obscurity! But of the few I did find, one gave it four stars and the others all gave it five. All said they were very satisfied with the JET JMS-10SCMS. They said it was accurate right out of the box and it met or exceeded their expectations.

Rating: ★★★★½

Where To Buy

In looking around at online sources for the JET JMS-10SCMS I found that the price only varies $10 – $459.99 to $469.99. However, I also noticed that other sites, like Woodcraft and Rockler, add anywhere from $35 to $60 for standard shipping. The exception to this is CPO. As of this writing, they offer $6.99 flat rate shipping (subject to change) on all their saws and same day shipping.

When you follow the link below, you might notice on that page the model number is wrong: It says JMS-105CMS. I suspect the webmaster misread it and no one has corrected it yet. Not to worry, it’s the right saw.

JET JETN707110 B3NCH, JMS-10SCMS, 10-in Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw

Specifications

  • Arbor Size: 5/8″
  • Bevel Stops: 0°, 33.9° and 45° left & right
  • Miter Stops : 10 stops, -45° to 60°
  • Cut Capacity @90° : 3-5/8″ x 12”
  • Miter Capacity: 45° left – 60° right
  • Blade Speed : 4200 RPM
  • Height: 20.7″
  • Length: 35.8″
  • Width: 25.2″
  • Net Weight: 50.7 lb.
  • Motor Current : 15 A

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